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Extremely extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I really did not make clear ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I needed to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up really badly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're mosting likely to speak about a couple of problems of these vans, but I I'm plainly not going to come out and say one is better than the other. If that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are several of the distinctions between these 2 brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same car.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines after that. Let's speak about engine and in fact simply to define that the model years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a lengthy time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has been around because, you recognize, around that time as well. So we're not going to get back into, into the earlier things. Since 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more preferred and I wouldn't really suggest a V6 engine.
You recognize, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with blow to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which created troubles. And commonly that would certainly take place when you may be in a 15 traveler bus going up a hillside with a load of individuals and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're acquiring anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug issues. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold generally you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, since I'm discussing issues, it's a more advanced engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler design with push rods.
They're just really rather great, sturdy, solid engines. You understand, being a van, obviously, you recognize, doing any kind of service on them is more complex due to the fact that you've reached remove that cover and enter into servicing in odd means. Points like spark plugs last an awful long time, so they don't require to be replaced really often.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't assume of if we've ever before done a Chevy, yet Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a very long time, like back prior to the 2000 version year.
So, you understand, that's still available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying extremely hefty loads. Diesels need to be functioned. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm just going to state a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would be a truly great use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have much less troubles in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, yet when points happen, they're truly pricey to take care of. We've got a great deal of video clips and details regarding diesels, especially the Fords.
So you truly need to hesitate about getting a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for objective, ensure that you're suitable the engine that you're acquiring for the objective that you're endeavouring to fulfill. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will certainly state, Chevy is pretty a lot restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply chatting concerning kind of a right, routine freight van here. The diesel definitely isn't the most effective alternative. Check out your objective, your usage, just how much weight you're hauling which'll aid you decide. Mark: What about the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're basically equivalent.
Something that we have not spoken about here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're readily available ever from half ton to one heap chassis and actually a few of the exploded view vans are actually also much more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less guiding affiliation included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering linkage is much less complex, so there's much less components and much less things to wear out.
The trip in a Ford is possibly a bit more vehicle like however I don't understand if you 'd really ever before truly saw a distinction between both. It appears like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the very same, but I will state that it seems like with Fords, the method they build their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to require to be changed practically every time you do a brake job.
For some factor, they seem to last for one brake work. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit even more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, actually terribly developed. In fact, I would claim that if you are even checking out something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks as a whole truly took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a lot of things where the brakes for circumstances would certainly not last extremely long in any way.
But if we're considering the 2000 more recent, I imply, I would certainly state they're both probably basically matching in quality, fit and finish, you recognize, several of the guest vans, certainly we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. But I can not state that one of them stands out to me a bit greater than the other.
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